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828 Beiträge · seit 201601. Okt. 2020 · #361
Aha, die Liste.

Wer von Spanien in die Schweiz einreist muss 14 Tage in Quarantäne 😎

Spanien das EU Vorzeige "High-Risk" Land ist aber nicht auf dieser komischen Liste, die Schweiz schon. Geht ja alles nach absoluten Fallzahlen hat die Dame in Pressekonferenz Erklärt. Spanien hat 4-5 mal so viele Ansteckungen per 100' 000 Einwohner wie die Schweiz , wer soll das verstehen 😄

Mal abwarten. Aber sonst geht es so. Man fliegt zuerst in ein "Low Risk Land" in Afrika, zum Beispiel Tanzania, Sambia oder Namibia, macht dort 10 Tage Ferien und reist dann nach RSA ein...sollte im Moment funktionieren, bis es eben wieder anders ist.

Auch in Deutschland steigen ja die absoluten Fallzahlen, das Land testet und testet, im Moment gegen 1 Mio Tests pro Tag, wahrscheinlich nur eine Frage der Zeit bis Deutschland auch auf dieser komischen Liste landet... 😄

lg Maputo
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1'115 Beiträge · seit 201001. Okt. 2020 · #364
Was zeigt uns die Liste der High-Risk Länder von SA? Je weniger ein Land testet, speziell in den vergangenen Wochen, umso grösser ist die Chance als Low Risk eingestuft zu werden.....
Interessant wäre noch: Du bist aus einem Low Risk Land, das Flugzeug hebt ab, und bis zu Deiner Landung in JNB landet Dein 'Pass-Land' auf der High-Risk Liste. Wahrscheinlich verteilt die Airlinge dann Fallschirme an die Betroffenen ......

Gruss Rajang
33,1k Beiträge · seit 200601. Okt. 2020 · #365
Interessant wäre noch: Du bist aus einem Low Risk Land, das Flugzeug hebt ab, und bis zu Deiner Landung in JNB landet Dein 'Pass-Land' auf der High-Risk Liste. Wahrscheinlich verteilt die Airlinge dann Fallschirme an die Betroffenen ......
na ja, die Liste wird ja nicht in Echtzeit angepasst, sondern scheinbar alle 14 Tage. Ist ja nichts anderes mit Einteilung durch Deutschland. Heute noch im sicheren Belgien, morgen schon im unsicheren Belgien mit Pflichttest/Quarantäne bei Rückkehr nach Deutschland. Ich würde gerne meinen Deutschlandurlaub für Mai buchen... ob ich dort in Quarantäne muss oder womöglich nach Rückkehr hier oder beides, muss ich dann sehen. Wieder etwas, dass man nicht planen kann und deshalb muss man eben mit allem rechnen. Leider 🙁

Viele Grüße
Christian
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828 Beiträge · seit 201601. Okt. 2020 · #366
Gibt es eigentlich gesonderte Listen für Medium und Low Risk ? Läuft Namibia unter Low oder Medium auf irgend einer offiziellen Liste?

Lg Maputo
794 Beiträge · seit 201301. Okt. 2020 · #367
@ Christian; aller 14 Tage birgt aber auch gewisse Risiken, man hat ja somit maximal 14 Tage Planungssicherheit. Weiss nicht wie kulant die Unterkünfte dann sind wenn 14 Tage vorher storniert werden muss. Bei Sanparks z.B. sind es ja 30 Tage Storno-Frist...

Und 14 Tage ist ja dann noch der best case, wenn die Liste zum Beispiel am jedem 01. und 15. eines Monats angepasst wird, hat man, wenn man am 02. oder 16. fliegt nur einen Tag "Vorlauf"...

Ich wäre mit meinem Flug am 07. Februar dann in der Mitte... 😉 Aber bis dahin fließt ja noch viel Wasser die Elbe oder den Zambesi runter... 😉

Beste Grüße
André
33,1k Beiträge · seit 200601. Okt. 2020 · #368
aller 14 Tage birgt aber auch gewisse Risiken, man hat ja somit maximal 14 Tage Planungssicherheit. Weiss nicht wie kulant die Unterkünfte dann sind wenn 14 Tage vorher storniert werden muss. Bei Sanparks z.B. sind es ja 30 Tage Storno-Frist...
klar, aber das hast Du ja praktisch derzeit überall auf der Welt. Was z. B. Deutschland angeht hat man sogar nur 7 Tage maximale Planungssicherheit, wobei Risikogebiete auch gerne mal spontan zwischendurch ausgewiesen werden.

Es gibt eben derzeit fats keine bis keine Planungssicherheit.

Viele Grüße
Christian
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33,1k Beiträge · seit 200601. Okt. 2020 · #369
Nepal
Netherlands
North Macedonia
... und KLM ist am Morgen mit zig Personen aus dem High-Risk-Land Niederlande in Kapstadt gelandet...

Viele Grüße
Christian
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1'115 Beiträge · seit 201002. Okt. 2020 · #370
Quarantäne bei Rückkehr nach Europa. Möglicherweise zeichnet sich eine Lösung ab, damit diese wegfällt. SCHNELLTEST (Speichel statt Rachenabstrich):

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/flugreisen-lufthansa-plant-corona-schnelltests-fuer-passagiere-16967462.html

Uebrigens soll bei Etihad der PCR im ticket inbegriffen sein bis Ende Jahr:

https://abouttravel.ch/reisebranche/transport-luft-land/etihad-inkludiert-pcr-tests-in-ticketpreis/

Gruss Rajang
4'984 Beiträge · seit 201602. Okt. 2020 · #371
Also so wirklich erschließt sich mir das System nicht:
Wie Christian gestern schon über KLM geschrieben hat, ist heute die BA57 aus London in JNB gelandet.
Sitzen da jetzt ausschließlich Südafrikaner, Diplomaten oder Investoren drin?
Gruß Gina
49 Beiträge · seit 201802. Okt. 2020 · #372
Geschäftsreisende sind doch auch aus High-Risk-Countries erlaubt.
4'984 Beiträge · seit 201602. Okt. 2020 · #373
Stimmt, die hatte ich in meiner Aufzählung vergessen.
Meine persönliche Erfahrung auf Flügen aus der EU ins südl. Afrika ist aber nicht,
dass das Gros der Passagiere aus diesen Gruppen besteht... soweit man das optisch beurteilen kann.
Gruß Gina
33,1k Beiträge · seit 200602. Okt. 2020 · #374
Geschäftsreisende sind doch auch aus High-Risk-Countries erlaubt.
man fragt sich nur, warum sonst, wenn KLM nach Kapstadt fliegt, vor allem Touristen drin sitzen und jetzt auf einmal nur Geschäftsleute....
Und wie wollen sie das unterscheiden? Die meisten Geschäftsleute die nach Namibia reisen geben sich als Touristen aus, um die Visumpflicht zu umgehen. Das dürfte bei SA kaum anders sein.

Viele Grüße
Christian

KLM hat beispielsweise keinen Hinweis darauf, dass man aus einem High-Risk-Land nicht einreisen darf. Sie sagen sogar (immer noch), das Touristen gänzlich verboten sind?!
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4'984 Beiträge · seit 201603. Okt. 2020 · #376
Update von Transportminister Mbalula 02. Okt 2020

Minister Fikile Mbalula: Alert Level 1 Regional and International Travel
2 Oct 2020
Statement by the Minister of Transport regarding Alert Level 1 Regional and International Travel

Exactly 188 days ago, civil aviation activities as we know them came to a screeching halt. Between the 01 April – 30 May 2020, when the country was on Level 4, a total of 19 206 passengers landed at our airports.

Most of these flights were mainly for essential services and the repatriation and evacuation of foreign nationals and locals respectively.

When domestic travel commenced at the beginning of June 2020 during alert Level 3, this number went up to 391 720 passengers that landed at approved airports in total.

The statistics for the month of September 2020 will only be reconciled a few weeks down the line.

Our statistics show that in the past five (5) years the average number of passengers traversing between our airports amounted to an average of 1,8 million per month with the highest recorded figures indicating that over 2 million passengers per month land at our airports during peak travel seasons such as the Easter and Christmas periods. These figures are not meant to shock you but are merely a demonstration of the real impact of COVID-19 on the civil aviation industry activities and businesses since the World Health Organization announced the global outbreak of this virus in the first quarter of the year 2020. In line with the announcement of the President of the Republic, His Excellency Cyril Ramaphosa, as well as the Regulations issued by the Minister of COGTA, Dr Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma, international travel is now permitted as of 01 October 2020. It is therefore my immense pleasure to announce the Directions which are effectively setting in motion and signaling the reopening of Regional and International travel from and into South Africa.

International flights

With effect from 01 October 2020, international passenger flights, inbound into our country from the African continent and from other countries outside the African continent, as determined in accordance with the list determined by the Minister of Home Affairs following conditions: Compliance Requirements for Operators (Airline and Commercial Operators)

1. A Foreign Operator (meaning an airline) is required to submit procedures that show the level of compliance with South African COVID-19 legislation for approval to the South African Civil Aviation Authority.

2. Foreign Air Ambulance Services are permitted to transport COVID-19 positive patients; provided that they obtain approval from the Department of Health, a permit issued by the Department of Transport, and comply with the Department of Health Protocols and the Air Ambulance Guidelines that are in place.

3. An Operator shall not board any passenger without a valid negative Polymerase Chain Reaction (“PCR”) or a valid COVID-19 negative test certificate.

4. South African authorities reserve the right to verify the authenticity of presented PCR or COVID-19 test certificates.

5. Operators are allowed to provide catering on-board an aircraft, i.e. provided that they take all risk mitigation, health and safety measures to contain the spread of COVID-19, including the provision of pre-packed meals.

Compliance Requirements Relating to Passengers

1. Passengers are required to wear face masks at all times and may only remove face masks during emergencies or when instructed by cabin crew to take them off, and must observe social distancing, ensure hand washing, and sanitize regularly.

2. A passenger who is unable to wear a face mask due to an underlying medical condition must submit a medical certificate from a registered medical practitioner to the Operator prior to departure.

3. A child under the age of two years may be exempted from wearing a face mask. This is because masks can restrict breathing for small children as their airways are smaller than older children and adults.

4. A passenger must provide to the Operator a negative PCR test certificate or a valid COVID-19 negative test certificate, obtained not more than 72 hours before the date of travel, from an accredited laboratory and in line with the World Health Organization requirements.

5. An “immunity passport”, “risk-free certificate” or “passport immunity” in respect of COVID-19 is not acceptable. 6. If a passenger is symptomatic, the necessary protocols of the Department of Health will be followed.

7. In the event of the passenger’s failure, for whatever reason, to submit a certificate as proof of a negative PCR test certificate or a valid COVID-19 negative test certificate upon arrival in South Africa, the passenger shall be subjected to a compulsory quarantine at a government designated facility as contemplated for in Health Directions, at his or her own cost.

8. International travel from countries listed as having a high COVID-19 infection and transmission rate, is prohibited, except for business travel, which may be allowed with the approval of the Cabinet member responsible for Home Affairs, in which case such passengers must comply with the stipulated requirements.

9. A passenger in transit must be in possession of a negative PCR test certificate or a valid COVID-19 negative test certificate, obtained not more than 72 hours before the date of travel, from an accredited laboratory.

10. A passenger in transit who displays symptoms of COVID-19 must, upon arrival and under the direction of Ports Health: (a) Be taken through primary and secondary screening, including COVID-19 testing, where applicable; (b) Be quarantined, at own cost, if a positive test result is obtained. In this case, all Department of Health protocols and Department of Transport guidelines must be adhered to.

Compliance Requirements Relating to Crew

1. Crew members are required to wear face masks at all times, except when conducting a safety briefing and during an emergency.

2. Crew members shall upon arrival in South Africa be subjected to health protocols as contemplated for in Health Directions.

3. An Operator must ensure the following risk mitigation measures for crew members: (a) conduct risk assessments to ensure that crew members are fit and proper before they undertake their travel duties and mitigate the risk of COVID-19 crew infections; and (b) ensure that crew members are protected whilst on duty.

International Schedule and Charter Flights International scheduled and Charter flights carrying passengers are allowed through the following airports: 1. OR Tambo International Airport; 2. King Shaka International Airport; and 3. Cape Town International Airport.

International Outbound Flights

With regard to international outbound flights the following applies:

1. subject to the travel requirements of a country of destination, a passenger must provide to the Operator a negative PCR test certificate or a valid COVID-19 negative test certificate from an accredited laboratory and

2. an Operator is responsible to ensure that passengers comply with COVID-19 requirements of the country of destination.

A Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) has been issued that informs pilots who are planning their flights to note and comply with South Africa’s legal requirements in line with Alert Level 1. His Excellency, President Cyril Ramaphosa reminded us that the virus is still with us; and therefore, any careless actions from our side will determine if we remain on Alert Level 1 for longer or not.

We are exercising extra caution as most countries who have previously witnessed a drop in the number of infections suffer what health experts call a second wave.

We are encouraged by the use of technology that in our airports, in the form of Smart Security checkpoint. This technology digitises the security check process, speeds up passenger progress through security, and further enhance security using state-of-the-art scanners. This technology is impressive, reduces human contact and we have been verily advised that this is one of the ways of reducing the spread of Covid19.

The utilization of this technology ensures that there is no physical pat-downs of passengers, who often set off security alarms because the scanning technology is much better at detecting objects that should not be carried on or around the person.

For the sake of our economy and the lives of all South Africans as well as those citizens who do business with our country, we urge you to cooperate with all civil aviation operators as they make the best out of a very difficult situation. The responsibility is upon each and everyone of us using the civil aviation network to ensure that we adhere to the set standards issued by several government departments such as the Department of Health, the Department of Transport, the Department of Employment and Labour and their respective agencies.

Cross-Border Road Transport

Cross-Border Road Passengers from all countries in the continent is permitted and travelers can only enter through permitted land ports determined by Minister of Home Affairs and would be subjected to all health protocols determined by Minister of Health. MARITIME As of October 01, 2020 all commercial sea ports are operational. Signing on crew must produce a negative Polymerase Chain Reaction ("PCR") test certificate or a valid certificate of COVID-19 negative test results, obtained not more than 72hours before the date of travel, from an accredited laboratory and in line with World Health Organization requirements at the first South African Port of Entry.

Cruise ships are prohibited from calling at any of the South African sea ports, except the disembarkation of returning- (a) South African crew; (b) South African citizens; or (c) holders of South African permanent residence permits.

Passenger ships are allowed to call at any South African sea port only for the following purposes: (a) Disembarking returning South African citizens and holders of South African permanent residence permits; (b) Replenishing fuel, stores and provisions; (c) medical evacuation; and (d) search and rescue.

PUBLIC TRANSPORT

Alert level 1 brings no changes for public transport, however we are closely monitoring the situation and the following conditions are still applicable:

Mini-buses, midi-buses and buses are only permitted to carry a maximum of 70% of their licensed passenger carrying capacity when undertaking long distance travel. Long distance is defined as any distance in excess of 200km irrespective of whether it crosses Provincial boundaries or not.
Short-distance public transport of 200km or less, for buses, mini-buses, midi-buses, ehailing services, metered taxis, shuttle service, chauffer driven vehicles and scholar transport vehicles is permitted to carry 100% of their maximum license passenger capacity.

As we continue to confront this pandemic, we should remain vigilant and follow all necessary health protocols. Indeed, we have walked a long walk through this pandemic to easily let our guard down; as such the words by one of our great Statesman, Nelson Mandela are as apposite as they were then and must resonate with each and everyone of us. Madiba once said: “I have walked that long road to freedom. I have tried not to falter; I have made missteps along the way. But I have discovered the secret that after climbing a great hill, one only finds that there are many more hills to climb. I have taken a moment here to rest, to steal a view of the glorious vista that surrounds me, to look back on the distance I have come. But I can only rest for a moment, for with freedom come responsibilities, and I dare not linger, for my long walk is not ended”. It has been a long and difficult 6 months since the first declaration of Covid-19 disaster. We have been through the rough seas and have hit some turbulences during this period. Together as a Nation, we have held hands and traversed through this disaster. As we enter Alert level 1, we dare not linger but must remain resilient, cautious, adhere to health protocols and adjust to the new normal as we simultaneously prepare for the next normal.

I thank you...

Issued by: Department of Transport
More from: Department of Transport

Quelle: https://www.gov.za/speeches/minister-fikile-mbalula-alert-level-1-regional-and-international-travel%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0-2-oct-2020-0000
Gruß Gina
49 Beiträge · seit 201803. Okt. 2020 · #377
Derzeit gibt es wohl Unklarheit darüber, ob deutsche Staatsangehörige ein Visum benötigen.

Das AA schreibt hierzu:

Die Einreise aus Deutschland ist derzeit zu jedem Reisezweck möglich, wenn der Aufenthalt in den zurückliegenden 10 Tagen vor Einreise dort war. Ob hierzu ein Visum benötigt wird, ist derzeit nicht bekannt. Dies sollte vor Abreise mit den südafrikanischen Behörden geklärt werden. Das Auswärtige Amt ist ebenfalls um Klarstellung bemüht.
4'984 Beiträge · seit 201603. Okt. 2020 · #378
Die Unklarheiten gibts wohl nur beim AA.
Hätte man die Regularien fürs Touristen-Visum geändert, wäre dies sicher publiziert worden.
Gruß Gina
49 Beiträge · seit 201803. Okt. 2020 · #380
Näheres dazu auf Twitter, kann es leider nicht verlinken.